The problem with LMS’s

I’m not going to lie to you – I really like Edmodo. Hell I’ve made five versions of an Edmodo guide that has been viewed over 50,000 times and the latest version is more than fifty pages. You don’t do something like that unless you like something, are paid to do or old told to do it by a superior. I’m lucky, I fall into the first category. I know that Edmodo can help organize a class, improve communication between the teacher and her/his students and make life generally easier for the teacher. I know Edmodo does this and more and I know that other learning management systems (LMS) do too.

However, I read an article in Hack Education called Beyond the LMS by Audrey Watters. The article talks about a great deal of issues but one that stood out was why Audrey doesn’t think LMS are a good idea. Her example was Blackboard but this point here really stuck with me.

After all, at the end of each class, students would lose access to the materials — could lose, I suppose. there are some administrative controls to extend it. Anything they’d written in the forums, for example, any interactions they’d had through the messaging system: gone.

You see, she is right. After a class is over in Edmodo, I have three options:

  1. Delete the class forever – not a good idea.
  2. Keep the class open – Not the best idea either. Who knows what it could turn into.
  3. Archive the class – No one can post, delete or make any changes. The info is available but you have to scroll or search through it

I archived all my classes, but if you’ve ever used Edmodo and archived a class and then tried to find something – good luck. The search isn’t that great which means you need to scroll through everything, and it shows so much info at a time. I’ve had to do this and it is a time consuming pain in the ass. My students wouldn’t go through all that.

Sure, the info is there but not easily accessible which means no one is going to sift through that to find what they’re looking for unless it is a real emergency and even then maybe.

One thing I believe is that technology can bring unparalleled transparency to a school. It can let all teachers of a subject/grade level to consolidate all their materials in one place, collaborate on cornerstone assessments and thus make everything better horizontally aligned which is a problem I’ve seen at every school I worked at.

It can also allow teachers in different grades to see what is being taught above and below them and thus bring more vertical alignment within a school. Also a problem I’ve seen at every school I’ve worked in, but Edmodo and other systems aren’t great at that. Their focus is far smaller. Improve organization of a class, improve communication within the class and to help bring more transparency to the students in the class. I love that but now that I think about what Audrey wrote, I think of all the resources they lose out on after the year/semester is over.

This makes me think of good old Omar. Omar, uses WordPress blogs for his classes. At first I thought he was making more work for himself. He had to set up the blog, he had to manually add each student to the blog, he had to make sure they could access the blog through their account. He had to make sure that the categories and tags were all set up and more and more, but at the end of the day (or school year) that info is still there. It’s still available for his students. It’s a record of what they’ve accomplished, what they still need to improve upon and more. They can take that with them (or at least access it in the future).

I like that idea more. I like the idea of students being able to take their work with them from class, to class and year to year. I love Edmodo and will most likely use it again in the future, but I’ll also do something else. Maybe a blog or a website to help correspond with what the LMS is doing. I want to create something with my students that they can take with them. I don’t want my class to be a stand alone class – I want it to be transparent and to have longevity beyong the school year.

In the end, if every year is a blank slate what was the point of all the previous years?

Patrick Cauley
www.thetechjonsey.com

Podcast episode 50 – The big five-ohhhh – December 13, 2012

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We’re not old, we’re seasoned! This is our fiftieth episode and we are pleased to be joined with Tony, Cara and Preston. Of course Omar and I will be there to kick off the festivities. Please subscribe to us on iTunes, download the episode below or listen to it right here on the blog!

  1. Edmodo goes down! – Twice in about a month
    1. Should teachers be worried
    2. Owning your own data
    3. Plan B scenarios
    4. 15 million users on it now
  2. Tony’s Post: https://itbabble.com/2012/12/13/if-you-dont-love-ipads-people-hate-you/
    1. Take the survey please!
    2. Problems rolling them out
    3. What could be better
    4. Is Android a viable option or is it still an iPad world out there?
  3. Producing Tech Savvy Teachers
  4. Proposed title: How to survive a zombie apocalypse…and How to survive a digital world Teach kids to code, collaborate and collate critical content
  5. Cyber Awareness week – Preston was there too! He is everywhere!
    1. Presentation & Panel & Facebook guide
    2. Some good questions: bullying, spying on their kid,
    3. Any tips for parents/students?
  6. The holiday season is upon us any new tech in your future?
  7. Deep fried USBs

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Podcast episode 45 – It’s nap time! – October 24, 2012

It is another incredible episode. There was a lot to talk about this week in ed tech. As always, check out the agenda below and subscirbe to us on iTunes! We love those subscriptions.

  1. Happy birthday Cara!
  2. Edmodo and others was down!
    1. Owning your data
    2. Should teachers be worried?
    3. Other options
  3. Kids get suspended for finding naughty pics on teacher’s iPad
    1. Shouldn’t the teacher be responsible?
    2. More examples that being online does not mean you’re anonymous
    3. What should the school have done?
  4. iPad mini – Should schools even pay attention to this thing? – Apple Event tonight around 9pm
  5. What websites do you use to help you be productive?
  6. The Ostrich Pillow – Should we have nap time in school? – A video for the Ostrich Pillow
    1. You can nap anywhere with this thing!
    2. It costs about $100 USD
  7. iPhone app of the week – Mitosis
    1. https://itunes.apple.com/AE/app/id348184626?mt=8&ign-mpt=uo%3D4
  8. Happy Eid everyone

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Uh Edmodo?

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I’ve been using Edmodo for a while now and really, really like it. I mean I’ve written about it on more than one occasion and have written a pretty lengthy and comprehensive guide (I’m in the process of updating by the way) which you can find here. It’s been viewed more than 25,000 times which I guess means it’s not too bad.

Anyway, from time to time I get some questions concerning Edmodo and I thought I would like to share a few of them with you the reader and my replies. The emails are real, the questions are real, but I will keep their names out of it to protect the author’s privacy. So read on past the break to read about a common question I get about assignments and how students can turn them in. If you have any questions feel free to ask me at patrickcauley@gmail.com

Continue reading “Uh Edmodo?”

Edmodo Guide Version 3.1

If you’ve been thinking about trying out Edmodo now is the time and to help you out I’ve updated and embedded my guide below. Edmodo is a great way to increase the communication in the class, help students organize and to build a stronger learning community. It’s free, powerful and if you’re on the fence I urge to try it out.

Here is another update to my guide for Edmodo. When I started this guide it was only 9 pages long and now here it is 36 pages later. This guide covers everything from signing yourself up to managing grades and everything in between. Feel free to download, print and distribute the guide however you want.

Enjoy and happy Edmodoying (that’s not a word)

Educational iPhone Apps – December

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It’s back! The monthly segment of educational iPhone apps. The reason for the break was not a choice but due to circumstances that were totally in my control. My iPhone was lost (or stolen) at a restaurant back in May and was not recovered 😦 Though an early Christmas present from my wife (don’t worry folks I returned the favor) this month help remedy that and now I am ready to start posting those fun educational apps that you can use with your students, your children or yourself.

This month we have some good ones. They’re all free (which are the best kind) and hopefully there is something there that you can dig. You will find some updated apps (always good to mention those important updates). There are a few straight up educational apps and some good Christmas themed apps. If you’re as excited as I am hit on past the break to get all the goodness that your iPhone can bring you this month.

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Edmodo Challenger #1 – Edu 2.0

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The first site to take on the mighty Edmodo is Edu 2.0. To avoid confusion, there is an edu20.org (which is what is being reviewed and discussed today) and an edu20.com (which is a paid site targeting businesses). They are both from the same creator (Graham Glass) and look similar, so if you accidentally stumble upon the other site take a quick peak at the address bar. To get all the details.

So, does Edu 2.0 have what it takes to strip Edmodo of the belt? Have they been taking their vitamins? Are they ready to rumbbbbble? Are they . . . OK this is getting ridiculous. Here’s the answer: no. Edmodo is still better than Edu 2.0 and to get all the details on how I came to this conclusion read on past the break. As always, if you agree, disagree leave a comment. A challenge isn’t a challenge without a little discussing.

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Edmodo Challenge!

Who will be the champ?

It’s no secret that I love me some Edmodo. The classroom companion has served me very well over the past two years and as they continue to roll out feature after feature it is no wonder that they have over 3.5 million strong. However, Edmodo isn’t the end all be all folks. Heck no! Omar and I are compiling a list (as comprehensive as possible) of Edmodo challengers out there. We are going to take a look at them and decide if Edmodo is truly deserving of the belt or not. Here’s who we are looking at:

The requirements to get into the list must be the following:

  • Has a free option
  • Has a social aspect
  • Assignments can posted and tracked
  • Teachers have control of their classroom/groups
  • Must have a significant user base (some websites can disappear overnight. We are looking for large and stable platforms)

If you, our most devoted readers, know of any websites that we missed, please let us know. In the words of Randy “The Macho Man” Savage Ohhhhh yeaaaaaahh!

Edmodo and WOW!

UPDATED: As with all good things, Edmodo has taken my guide down. Not in a malicious way mind you, it was just time to move on. I’ll be updating this guide soon, so stay tuned!

This is a short one. I recently created a guide for my Edmodo workshop that I held for teachers at my school in March. One person at the workshop was impressed with it and told me I should send it to the people of Edmodo. Well, that is what I did and low and behold I found it on the front page of their help page (help.edmodo.com). Go ahead and check out the document below. While I am a bit proud of it, the point of this document is to get more people to try Edmodo.

Edmodo – The guide

I just completed a workshop on Edmodo and what it can do for teachers. To go along with the prsentation, I created a guide. Before you go clicking on the link to get the guide, I’d like to explain something first. The guide is not a guide on how you should use Edmodo. It is a guide on how to simply do certain things with Edmodo. The way I use Edmodo and the way you may use Edmodo could be very different.

This guide is just to get you started and to answer those important questions of “how to do I do this with Edmodo?” ​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​So click on the image below to get the guide from Yudu and enjoy!​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​ Don’t forget to leave a comment.

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